DEAD TWINS TALKING

Death is the Ultimate Writer's Block image
Marshall, left, and Mitchell, right, South Mission Beach, San Diego, CA, circa 1981

     Dead Twins Talking is a blog written by identical twins Marshall and Mitchell Lilly.
     The most prominent feature on our website is a large collection of poetry. Although our creative writing will never see the light of day, we were gung-ho about putting down as many words as possible before becoming the dead twins we were always meant to be.
From the Womb to the Tomb image

Mitchell, left, and Marshall, right, eating mud pies on Ensenada Court in South Mission Beach, San Diego, CA circa 1962

     
      My identical twin brother Marshall and I joined the world on June 19, 1959, in La Jolla, California. I came out first, with Marshall, whose nickname is Mars, sliding out from our mother's womb two minutes later. If you're reading this we're either old men or dead and gone.
     We grew up in a family of six. Our father, Thomas Earl, hailed from West Virginia, but eventually made his way to sunny Southern California as a frogman with the Navy. After leaving the military, he enrolled at San Diego State University to study engineering. While working as a lifeguard in Mission Beach, he rented a small apartment on the ground floor of a two-story house on Ensenada Court. The house was owned by our grandparents on our mother's side, and the rest is history.
     We have one older brother, Byron Joseph, and one younger sister, Anne Grace. Byron and his wife Nancy have two children, Benjamin and Jordana. I have one daughter, Jessica Joy, born in 1987. Anne never married and has no children. Mars got married twice but also has no kids.
     My siblings and I spent most of our childhood in San Diego, but our dad liked to move around so we also spent time growing up in Anchorage, Alaska, Frankfurt, Germany, and Keflavik, Iceland.
     Mars and I are turning 65 this month (June 2024). That's a lot of years to live and we've had our share of ups and downs and good and bad experiences to go with them. In our early sixties we wound up living 360 miles away from each other. I live in Da Nang, Vietnam, and he lives in Siem Reap, Cambodia.
     In the summer of 2023 Mars and his Cambodian wife, Eang, flew to Da Nang and stayed for 10 days. It had been seven long years since we'd seen each other. They met my Vietnamese wife, Lana, and my stepdaughter, Hai My. We ate delicious meals at home and at local restaurants, visited Marble Mountain and Hoi An, and spent time swimming and drinking morning coffee at the local beach. Our reunion and brief time together left me feeling both exhilarated and melancholy.
     My feelings for Mars are deeper and stronger than those for my other siblings. Twins are naturally closer, sharing a kinship that goes beyond the common ties of brother and sisterhood. It's like we still feed off the amniotic sac from our first nine months together, uncannily bound by an inseparable and unbreakable twin connection. It's a bond of love that lasts a lifetime!
A Twin Talk A Day image
Marshall, left, and Mitchell, right, Oceanside Pier, San Diego County, 2010

     I talk with my twin brother almost everyday. Seeing and chatting with him is like a a life-sustaining drug that keeps me from going insane. I cannot imagine my life without him in it. We've had some big fights and major estrangements, at times not talking to each other for years. But we've let it all go and now enjoy a twinship of kindness and comradery. We finally understand each other! Or at least we understand how silly and stupid it is to be mad at each other.
     
The Last Visit image
Marshall, left, and Mitchell, right, Marble Mountain, Da Nang, Vietnam, 2023

     We had such a nice time with Mars and Eang when they visited us in August 2023. We took this photo at Marble Mountain, which is in between Da Nang and Hoi An. Another year has flown by and it's almost June, when Mars and I will be turning 65! I wish I could visit Mars in Siem Reap but it's just not in the cards right now. Not enough cash flow. But I'm hoping we get to meet again before we go from being alive twins talking to dead ones.
The Last Photo image
From left to right: Lana and Mitchell, Marshall and Eang, Woody House, My An beach, Da Nang, Vietnam, 2023

     We had a fabulous time, as our mother used to say, when Mars and Eang visited us in August 2023. We took this photo at the guesthouse where Mars and Eang stayed for 10 days. Now when I bike down to the beach for my morning swims the place feels like a heartrending ghost town, the figment of my imagination sensing my twin brother's presence as I envision him walking, almost hobbling, along the boardwalk and cobbled beach town streets. He is hauntingly yet welcomely with me in spirit all the time.
Johnny Manifesto image
Marshall, left, and Mitchell, right, Lake Tahoe, 2010

     It's a long story. I'm sixty-five years old. So, I'll keep it short and sweet. All that matters is now. The past's billions of years of old stories. We can learn a lot from yore tales, but aside from that they don't mean anything. They're meaningless. My past is riddled with mistakes, but I've let them go. My mistakes are forgiven.
     Now Mitch and I are okay. At 65, our battle is health. The downhill of longevity is painful, and sudden, fatal falls are imminent. Now, our Southeast Asian ladies, Eang and Lana, are everything.
     They'll get us through. And as always, all we have to do is show up!
Marshall Earl Lilly, August 2024

Mars in the Moment

In the moment
My brother Mars
Getting loaded
High in the stars

In the moment
Just twin to twin
Feeling lucky
To see him grin

In the moment
My old best friend
Staying happy
Until the end
Please promise me you'll take good care
To live each day as best you can
And sign on with a pinky swear
To be a tickled also-ran

Please promise me you'll always try
To live your dog days free and clear
And cross your heart and hope to die
To nourish love and weed out fear

Please promise me you'll keep your oath
To wake each day dead to the past
And make good on the vows you quoth
To be a good man till the last
Marshall, left, and Mitchell, right, James Madison High School Graduation, San Diego, 1977

We had a promising and extraordinary life
Delivered on a double silver platter
We lost ourselves along the way
But that's the way mops flop sometimes
When boyhood dreams sorely shatter

We chased and crashed like bumper cars
Prone to jumpy house Shangri-Las
Our will-o'-the-wisps rashly dashed
But that's the way balls bounce sometimes
When losing gets the most applause

We failed and fell then failed and fell again
Each second chance overrun by rust
Our fruits of labor swiftly spoiled
But that's the way boughs break sometimes
When brown rot turns to fecund dust

We now have heartening and overflowing lives
Granted with a clean slate of intertwining
We found ourselves along the way
And that's the way winds blow sometimes
When clouds seek a silver lining
The Lilly Bros
This is a link to our song about twinship called "The Lilly Bros". The lyrics are ours, the rest is all Mars. Watching this is one of my favorite things to do.

We are the Lilly Bros
One follows where the other one goes
What one thinks the other one knows
We're the Lilly Bros
We are the Lilly pads
What one's got the other one has
Even though it's all by chance
We're the Lilly Bros
Oh, yeah, we're identical
Oh, yeah, we're inseparable
We are the Lilly Bros
One egg one sperm two embryos
Made the same from head to toes
We're the Lilly Bros
Oh, yeah, we're adorable
Oh, yeah, we're incorrigible
We are the Lilly Bros
Which one's which nobody knows
Side by side through life we go
Oh, yeah, we're identical
Oh, yeah, we're inseparable
We are the Lilly Bros
One follows where the other one goes
We're the Lilly Bros

This is the last poem to be penned

Composed in syllables of eight

The final entry in our blog

Now shuttered by the hands of fate


This is the cherry on the top

The closing run of our sad play

Shakespearean as clever fools

With nothing really left to say


That destiny should find us here

To bleed like mad from every pore

The bitter last and dying nail

For talking twins who talk no more

It came out of left field

Like a fatal disease

A hard shattering fact

Not a word could appease


It came out of left field

Like a grim coup de grace

A sad backstabbing truth

Of the lines he would cross


It came out of left field

Like a cruel kiss of death

A deep heartbreaking wound

To my last dying breath

What a cruel final move

A dagger to the heart

A twin who lost his way

Destructive from the start


Such a harsh ending blow

A shotgun to the head

A twin who lost the plot

Vindictively brain dead


Tormented to a T

Psychotic at the core

A twin who lost his mind

And showed me to the door

We are young

Then grow old

 Rub-a-dub

truth be told


We arrive

Then depart

That's the deal 

from the start 


We are born

Then we die

Atomize

by-and-by


We are here

Then long gone

That's the deal

right or wrong

All men must go

All men must die

Beyond the reach

of knowing why


All men must fade

All men must yield

Beyond the reach

of kismet sealed


All men must fall

All men must leave

Beyond the reach

of last reprieve

I'm in big trouble now, again

Between a rock and a hard place

On the verge of calling it quits

Afraid to say it to her face


I'm on the wrong road now, again

Skidding along a dead man's curve

On a steep and slippery slope

Going for broke without the nerve


I'm in the crosshairs now, again

Under my seesaw of a thumb

On the brink of catastrophe

Alone and scared of what may come

Were it not for you

Crowding up the womb

Mucking up the works

Bringing down the room


Were it not for you

Trouble with a T

Turning on a dime

Roaming fancy-free


Were it not for you 

Breaking every rule

Lacking self-control 

Acting like a fool


Were it not for you 

Brother with a B

Living like a clone

Copycatting me

In the end we all turn to dust

No more worries we have to face

Zero thinking we need to do

In the ultimate resting place


At long last we all get ghosted

No more people we want to see

Zero places we hope to go

Where the Grim Reaper sets us free

Sure, you can tell me things I don't already know

but they absolutely must be solely about science

Sure, all your other thoughts and opinions can blow

because personal beliefs aren't scientifically reliant

Unless you can agree everything's a science show

your judgmental notions won't be conjuring up truth

I previously explained science carries all of my faith

Just when I thought we would make it

Bad choices in life took their toll

We kicked the bad habits in time

But suffered too much on the whole


Just when I thought we had made it

Old age made us stop and think twice

We smoked the peace pipe in the end

But ten more years sure would be nice

We're going to slide like duck shit

with a croak pushing excrement out

slipping uncomfortably into something

our in memoriam resembles no doubt

I'm a heart attack waiting to happen

A blood clot away from fading out fast

I'm worn out and ready for the bone yard

My face a poster for things that don't last


I'm an embolus ready for action

On high angina pectoris alert

I'm so bloated and stiff and arthritic

Like rigid road kill in postmortem dirt


I'm an LAD artery pending

A widow maker made for leave-taking

I'm done for in mind, body, and spirit

My final curtain call in the making

Mitchell (left), mom Marsha (center), and Marshall (right), Mariners Basin, Mission Bay, San Diego, circa 1960.

Mitchell Evan Lilly (born June 19, 1959) is an American former high school basketball standout at James Madison High School in San Diego, California. Mitchell became the county's first 30-points-a-game scorer, setting two prep records by averaging 31.9 points per game and scoring 61 points in a single game. Named the 1977 CIF Player of the Year, he appeared in the April issue of Sports Illustrated's Faces in the Crowd.

Mitchell picked up the game of basketball in the sixth grade at Mission Beach Elementary school in South Mission Beach, where he and his identical twin brother, Marshall Earl Lilly, learned how to dribble, pass, and shoot on an outdoor fan-shaped backboard and halfcourt on the blacktop of the outdoor playground area. The school closed in 1973.

The naturally coordinated and quick-footed 11-year-olds might have picked up any other sport better suited to their white men can't jump athletic prowess, including tennis or surfing, but as fate would have it they they fell in love with hoops.

Of all sports, they chose the sport of biologically engineered Africans.

Early Life and Education

During his development years as a somewhat agile but physically limited future high school basketball star, Mitchell and his twin brother Marshall honed their skills practicing and playing on various courts and teams from their elementary and middle schools, local churches, Boys Clubs, and recreation centers.

During the 1972-73 season, their father, Thomas Earl Lilly (February 2, 1928-March 7, 2013) moved the family to Iceland, where he worked for one year as a civil engineer at Naval Air Station Keflavik. A massive and fully equipped basketball gymnasium on the base became Mitchell and Marshall's second home.

Then 13, the twins spent countless hours playing pickup games with older men and also competed in their combined school's league for eighth graders. Marshall, whose skills and knack for the game had by this time Mitchell's, earned a position as a starting guard on the junior varsity squad.

The following year, Mitchell's family, including his father, Thomas, his mother, Marsha Ann Lilly (September 11, 1935-April 16, 2016), his older brother Byron Joseph Lilly (born June 14, 1957), and his younger sister Anne Grace Lilly (born July 9, 1963) returned to San Diego, where Mitchell and Marshall graduated from the ninth grade at Pacific Beach Middle School.

As ninth graders, the twins excelled in physical education class and displayed above average athletic ability and competitiveness in a number of other sports, including over-the-line, a bat-and-ball sport first played in Mission Beach in the 1950s.

Together with a third player, the twins won the Old Mission Beach Athletic Club (OMBAC) junior tournament in the summer of 1973.

High School Career

In his sophomore year at Mission Bay High School, Mitchell struggled to keep up with his hoop savvier brother. Both twins made the varsity squad, but at the start of the 1974-75 season Marshall was a first string guard and Mitchell was a scrub sitting on the bench.

Several games into the season, the twins' mother, Marsha, visited Mission Bay Buccaneers coach Larry Willis in the coaches' office. She explained to coach Willis how devastating and demoralizing it was for Mitchell to watch his identical twin brother get unlimited playing time. She told coach Willis that she could not allow one of her twins to suffer the emotional trauma of going through an entire season sitting on the pine, and begged Willis to make Mitchell a starter.

Willis agreed, and Mitchell played on the first team for the rest of the season. The Bucs finished the rebuilding year somewhere in the middle of Coastal League, but Mitchell gained valuable experience to improve his skills and stay a step behind his slightly more talented twin.

In their junior year, Mitchell and Marshall lead Mission Bay to winning records in both the summer league at Municipal gymnasium and the regular 1975-76 season. The Bucs won the annual holiday tournament at the University of San Diego and were crowned champions of the Coastal League.

The twins received multiple press clippings in the local Sentinel newspaper and were also featured as players of the week in the San Diego Union-Tribune. Marshall made the first team All-Coast League, and Mitchell was named to the second team.

At the end of the school year, Marshall told Mitchell he wanted to leave Mission Bay and play for Kearny High School. The idea of transferring to another school for their senior year had never crossed Mitchell's mind. Although two minutes older, his temperament was docile and easygoing compared to Marshall's rebellious and hardnosed nature, and as such, Marshall had become the natural leader of the pair. Mitchell would follow his brother wherever he lead him, and surprisingly, their father also acquiesced to Marshall's traitorous plan.

Thomas marched his twins into the Mission Bay attendance office one bright May morning and approached the attendance secretary's desk.

"Good morning, Mr. Lilly, are we checking in today?"

"No, we're checking out."

And that was it. The twins' playing days at Mission Bay were over.

The twins walked around the campus for several minutes, getting their final grades from their teachers. While doing so, Coach Willis got wind of the mutiny and caught up with his star players in one of the school's long chain-linked walkways.

"What's going on?" he asked, a stern but confused look on his long, gaunt face.

"We're moving to the Kearny district," Marshall blurted out.

The coach looked at Mitchell, who immediately looked away, out through the chain-link fence at the manicured bushes and shrubs growing in the green space along the breezeway.

Willis looked at Marshall, who stood in the middle of the hall like a stone statue, staring defiantly back at his former coach.

"What do you mean?" Willis asked, his voice cracking with disbelief.

"We're moving, coach. We're transferring to Kearny High," Marshall crisply answered. He turned to Mitchell and said, "Let's go, Mitch."

As the twins moved on to the next classroom, Coach Willis turned and eyed them with the suspicious gaze of a shellshocked general seeing his two best soldiers turn into traitors right before his eyes.

"You're going to regret this!" he yelled.

But the twins didn't look back. They keep on going, glad to be rid of a coach they never really liked or respected.

Tom Lilly rented a studio apartment a few blocks away from Kearny High, and the twins lived there for the last few weeks of the school year.

Staying in the studio was harder on the twins than they knew. Except for the time they spent five days at a John Wooden basketball camp, they had never been on their own. Their dauntless yet foolhardy decision to bail on the Bucs had suddenly thrust them into a strange place and the unpleasant position of having to fend for themselves.

Marsha Lilly was against the idea from the start. The thought of putting her 16-going-on-17-year-olds up in the studio alone made her heart sink. Despondent but ever resourceful, she delivered groceries and household supplies to the studio every Saturday morning. Once there, she would sit and talk with her boys at a chipboard breakfast table in the tiny kitchen for awhile before driving them back to their house on Mission Bay.

"So, what do you guys want for your birthday this year?" she asked one day in early June.

"New Converse for the summer league," Marshall shot back.

"No, new Duck Feet," Mitchell quickly chimed in. The classic body surfing fins made by Voit looked like the webbed feet of ducks.

"Which is it, then?" asked Marsha, giving the twins' a make-up-your-minds look.

Mitchell and Marshall looked at each other. At first glance the twins appeared practically identical. Marshall looked more like his father, with higher cheekbones and slightly bigger, wider set blue-green eyes. Mitchell looked more like his mother, with a longer face, pointier chin, and smaller, beadier eyes the same color. Both had fine, medium-length reddish brown hair atop high foreheads, Greek noses, square jaws with dimpled cheeks, and small mouths with thin upper lips.

Despite minor differences in their facial features, at first glance strangers often found it hard to tell the twins apart. But as people got to know them it always got easier to figure out which one was which.

They were good looking boys, with pleasantly attractive faces and lean, well-proportioned, six-foot athletic bodies. As such, the twins had had many girlfriends and sexual encounters starting from the seventh grade. Then, at the height of their high school jock power and popularity, they gave it all up for a dream that would never come true.

Compared to the airy, laidback vibe at the Mission Bay campus, with its calming sea breezes and friendly, familiar faces, Mitchell saw Kearny as frightenedly territorial, like a mixed-race turf war ready to explode. He got stink eye from many students, including jocks on the Kearny Komets football team and a few graduating seniors from the basketball team.

One of the players was Alan Trammell, who played shortstop for the Detroit Tigers for 20 seasons and was inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame in 2018.

Five months earlier, during a semifinal game against the Bucs in the holiday tournament at USD, Trammell had suddenly slapped Mitchell in the face just for being in his jock on defense. Coach Willis immediately jumped up from the bench screaming and pointing, but neither official saw the technical foul. Mission Bay won, upsetting the top-seeded Komets in a close contest.

Walking down the school's crowded and contentious central hallway, Trammell gave Mitchell a gladiatorial sideways glance only once, then never looked in his direction again.

Summer League

The Komet's varsity coach, Tim Short, reluctantly welcomed the Lilly twins with half open arms. Coach Short already had all the players he needed to contend for championships in both the Summer League and regular season.

During afterschool practices the twins quickly earned starting guard positions, but during the summer league Coach Short frequently rotated his top junior players in and out of games. As a result, the twins sat on the bench for nearly half of the Summer League championship, which Kearny handily won.

After the game at San Diego State University's Peterson Gym, Marshall stopped Mitchell on their way out to the parking lot.

"We need to find another team," Marshall said, gripping both ends of a towel slung around his neck and shoulders.

"What do you mean?" asked Mitchell, looking around to make sure no one was listening.

"I mean we we're not gonna play for Kearny next year."

He leaned in closer, putting his right hand on Mitchell's left shoulder. "We're not gonna sit on the bench for half our senior year," he whispered mutinously.

"Where are we gonna play, Marshall?

He nodded and said, "I think I know where."

Senior Year

The place Marshall had in mind was Madison High, home of the Warhawks. Madison was in a rebuilding year without any top players, which meant the twins would spend most of their senior year on the court rather than the pine. When he heard the news, Madison coach John Hannon said he was tickled pink. Tom and Marsha went along with the plan, and at the end of the summer they rented a house in Clairemont Mesa where the family lived for the 1976-77 school year.

Moving into the Madison attendance zone meant the family had to pack up and leave the 3 bedroom, 2 bathroom bayfront house they had rented for the past five years. The oddly built yet stunningly remarkable beach shack sat on a large plot of land at 3930 Bayside Walk.

Built in the 1960s, the single-story abode's quirky, one-of-a-kind aesthetic included a large outdoor parking area next to a big front yard filled with sand, a partially covered and enclosed laundry and storage area with an outdoor shower and hidden doorway along a narrow alley and entrance to the property on one side, a gated and fenced in garden area running next to and behind the house along the Bayside Walk side, and wall-to-wall sliding glass doors across the front offering panoramic, million-dollar views of Sail Bay. At high tide the family could jump right from the retaining wall in the front yard straight into the water.

Early Romance and Relationships

Mitchell lost his virginity at the tender age of nine.

Professional Career

Mitchell had many jobs, including short and long stints as a bus boy, dishwasher, liquor store clerk, basketball referee, waiter, auto detailer, model, catwalk coach, stripper, word processor, carpet cleaner, public relations specialist, customer service representative, divemaster, mobile disc jockey, wedding officiant, photographer and videographer, TV news reporter and sports anchor, and ESL teacher, tutor, and trainer.

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